Friday, January 27, 2012

Nachtmahr - Can You Feel The (Genocidal Misogyny)... oh I mean "Beat"

Content note: racism, sexual assault, military sexual assault, misogyny, man-on-woman physical violence, female/female sexual assault and murder

Well, this video far surpassed my expectations of how bad it was going to be. I wrote about the trailers briefly in my first entry on misogyny in industrial videos. Seeing the first installment of this suggested set of videos, well, I'll just show it to you first.



There don't seem to be any good guys in this video. But we are first met with a white blond woman tied to a chair being threatened by a muscular brown man who then proceeds to torture her. The violence against her is glorified by not only the pounding bassline but also the suggestion that she is being interrogated about world domination.

This starts the video off reinforcing the racist (systemic, strategic) stereotype that brown people, specifically those from the Middle East, are torturers and misogynists with no regard for the lives of women. How soon we forget guantanamo bay and how white dominated Western militaries have poured loads of money, time, tactics and so on into their prisons and torture facilities. Into the coverups when these facilities are exposed. Into the massive racial profiling of brown people and labeling all kinds of people who dissent from the government terrorists. Moving on. It only gets better.

We later meet the leader of this group. A white dude with a side part flop in a nazi-esque military uniform, complete with arm bands and all, showing off for the camera as the lead singer of the band. The two white women, tall, thin, with very tight clothing and lots of make up stand silently behind him waiting for orders. Note we see no torture happening on part of the man obviously making nods to Hitler reminiscent of the film Downfall, pointing at the map angrily. The man responsible for a regime who killed millions of jews, queers, differently/dis abled people, mentally different people, women, children, and so on is acted out as a strong figure surrounded by beautiful women waiting to follow his every order. Including sexual assault.

After we see clip after clip of the women prisoner in the pain of torture, we then pan to her being stripped naked and assaulted by the two women behind hitler-wannabe. The original torturer is gone, and we are left with an eroticized view of only the bodies of two uniformed women, as well as one gloved person whose gender we don't know, assaulting a woman who is their prisoner. Eventually she begins to show affection back placing her arms on those of the other women. I am sure the clever director thought this made it erotic. But for many survivors of sexual assault, especially that which happens to 1 in 2 women in the military, it's simply triggering and awful to watch.

We then pan back and forth between not-Hitler and his droog assaulting a woman with a bag over her head until we meet him at his desk again. The woman who has just been physically beaten, tortured, and sexually assaulted meets Der Fuhrer Nachtler at his desk and received the N pin on her collar, right where the SS would be. She earned her pin through submitting to physical and sexual violence, as if she had a choice. Most of us don't.

Oh but wait, she walks out of the room and another woman clad in tight clothesand red lipstick is ordered by nachtmuhrer to follow her and strangle her to death. What an exciting twist! Actually, no.

On top of all of the nazi glorifying racist misogyny, the song isn't even that good.

On Nachtmahr's website, the bio begins with a quote from Winston Churchill. Is this irony? When the other parts of this set of videos come out, will we find it all being a statement against maziism, racism, and misogyny? I don't think that's really possible given the mistakes already made. But hey, I'll watch and see.

54 comments:

  1. It's called artistic expression. Find something actually worth fighting for instead of attacking artists who have it tough enough trying to stand out + succeed in this oversaturated modern internet market place. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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    1. I should be ashamed of myself for talking about racism, sexual assault, and misogyny? Having an industrial beat in one's music does not make it immune to criticism.

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  2. I appreciate your thoughts on the sexism in industrial music. I actually tried to comment on your first post when I first read it but it never seemed to go through. It was very nice to know that there was someone else seeing the same things I was. I LOVE industrial music, but have often criticized artists like Andy from Combichrist for being misogynistic idiots. I never bothered to watch the Nachtmahr trailer because I knew it was going to piss me off. I saw it all going downhill when the concept art for Alle Lust came out... I haven't written it off entirely yet, because I really do love the music. Keep it up. Don't let idiots tell you only artists can express themselves and that you mustn't!

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    1. Thank you. I am sorry your initial post didn't go through. Maybe try it again, I'd love to hear more from you. I appreciate the support. I got bombarded by a hundred dudes, half making really fucked up remarks. I love the music, too. Have for years. But I'm not feeling too safe in the scene at the moment. You are a shining star.

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    2. A friend of mine posted a link to this one which is what prompted me to try to comment this time. I just thought I should let you know that not even an hour after I read this, Nachmahr posted a poll on their facebook page asking what fans would most like to see in the next album. Number 2 on in the poll is, I kid you not, "More naked girls with (and without uniforms) in the artwork". I won't bother going off on the use of "girls" instead of "women." Many don't like to be reminded that they have pedophilic tendencies...

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    3. But Sarahmonster, don't you know it's just artistic expression! haha

      Yeah, I remember when artistic expression actually involved something other than wack ass videos with nazi uniforms and naked women, and that which welcomed criticism! Isn't that part of art? Talking about it?

      Granted I was a little harsh on nachtmahr but now reading your last comment I see it was not a mistake to be. Sell outs playing on what sells to make money. They can join the ranks of combichrist.

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  3. If you hates this, your gonna got bat shit at Feindflug, Btw, i love Nachtmahr and Feindflug, and guess what, i'm neither racist nor misogynist, or homophobic! The video tells a story, nothing more, nothing less, its art, Have you ever watched an action movie, with Arnuld or Stallone? THAT is violence glorification , Misogyny all wrapped up in one, but yet somehow seems imune from criticism because it's Holywood. I can see how people can see it as controversial, but it's nothing compared to what is spewed out by the mass media.

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  4. Okay, so the industrial scene should be defending itself by saying "it's not quite as bad as the putrid mainstream dreck we're trying to avoid"? Fuck that. This scene can be and should be better than that. And if you think nobody ever criticizes Hollywood for misogyny or racism you must not get out much.

    "The video tells a story, nothing more, nothing less, its art"

    Right, because at no point in recorded history have art and stories ever been discussed, analyzed, criticized, or interpreted. We should uncritically celebrate each and every bit of artistic work which is ever released. Gotcha.

    As far as Fiendflug goes, totalitarian themes have been part and parcel of industrial culture since day one. Exploring those themes and histories doesn't necessitate celebrating them, or using violence against women as a (literal) punchline.

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    1. Yeah maybe I got the wrong impression about the point of this blog, but I thought it was to point out that the music was supposed to be an ALTERNATIVE to mainstream culture, not a darker version of it.

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    2. I think contrasoma was responding to stefan's comments that 'it's ok if industrial bands do shitty stuff because other people do it too!" Didn't anyone's mom tell them the whole jumping off a bridge analogy?

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    3. PS thanks for your comments contrasoma.

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    4. No problem. I've been thinking for a while that this scene really needs these sorts of critiques, and the reactionary "la la la, I don't care if someone's purple, it's -you- who are racist, you can't criticize ART" responses you're getting only cements that. Please keep it up.

      (PS: didn't see an e-mail address, but Alex who commented below & I run an industrial blog/zine at idieyoudie.com. We're always keen to have discussions like this - drop us a line if yr so inclined.)

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    5. Yay! I will check it out thanks!

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  5. http://sloshedintranslation.com/2012/01/27/the-reverse-psychology-of-a-closet-racist/

    There ya go, friend.

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    1. Just curious, how does you making a shitty racist blog post in which you refer to me as an "overweight bull dyke" proving that you and your kin are not racist homophobic douchebags?

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  6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GS_1bzaj2fw#t=129s

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  7. I guess if he was slapping a man, all would be fine and well.

    Where do these arbitrary lines get drawn and when will they be erased? For every expression of "violence against women," there are countless expressions of violence against whatever the hell else you can think of. Why does it have to be women specifically? Why not simply "violence"? And, why does everything have to apparently be all hugs and roses and shit? Violence is real, is everywhere, and is FAR more grotesque than some "brown" man slapping a blonde lady around in a music video.

    Well, I suppose that people should simply not acknowledge things in any way alternative to yours. Nobody can exemplify an issue visually. We must type or talk about it, be very politically correct, etc, etc.

    I don't even know why in the fuck I'm typing this. This shit doesn't even merit a response. And, I may have trailed off at the end there. Reading Lucid's link distracted me.

    But, I'm sure you're thrilled about this new influx of patronage (Fucking misogynistic words, right?!). Thank your racist friend Daniel Graves. :P

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    1. Not all violence is just violence. There are many different kinds. Here's a good book on it that you will probably never read or even look at: http://www.amazon.com/Color-Violence-Incite-Anthology/dp/089608762X

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  8. And, why the FUCK are you specifically mentioning the color of the guy's skin, anyway?! If you're NOT a racist, wouldn't he simply be "a man" to you from the beginning?

    I mean, you're fucking putting words in this artist's mouth because the guy he picked for his video happened to fucking be "less white" than you would have preferred? How do you know he chose the dude specifically BECAUSE he was "brown"? And, how do you know he doesn't just have a really good tan? Son of a BITCH, your blatant self-absorption is ASTONISHING!

    And, couldn't the social commentary within the video be displaying ANTI-misogynistic points of view? Maybe the guy chose her to interrogate BECAUSE she was a woman and because he EXPECTED her to be weak, giving the artist an opportunity to show that women are NOT weak and are not easily broken? I mean, clearly, at the end, a women is still in a position of dominance. Fuck. Fuck. FUCK. Lol

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    1. Enjoy. http://www.timwise.org/2010/09/new-study-colorblindness-reduces-kids-ability-to-see-challenge-racism/

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    2. I'd link you to something that says "New Study Finds That New Studies Are Fucking Pointless," but I think you get the point.

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    3. Um, yeah ok, bro. Run with that.

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    4. "And, why the FUCK are you specifically mentioning the color of the guy's skin, anyway?! If you're NOT a racist, wouldn't he simply be "a man" to you from the beginning?"

      This line of thinking doesn't hold water. Not being racist doesn't mean ignoring race, it means acknowledging it but not allowing it to prejudice us against other people. If you don't think electing to have a interrogator be of middle eastern descent in the video has any significance in the context of torturing a white woman (a la "Birth of a Nation") in the greater context of the allusions in the rest of the video, you're deluding yourself.

      If Rainier wants to play with this kind of imagery, he can take the heat when someone calls him on it. But hey, why think when you can be part of a mob defending his integrity with name calling and slurs?

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    5. Hear hear, alex. Thank for posting. The last part is what I keep thinking about. So many people are angry with me for daring to criticize the videos in the first place. What is the point of using this imagery if not to create discussion? Unless it really is just mindless glorification...

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    6. I may not agree with all your points, but I fucking hate seeing this kind of knee jerk reaction and resulting comment mob. There is a fundamental disconnect in people's minds that goes a little something like this:

      "I'm not racist or misogynist. I like Band X. Therefore nothing Band X does can be racist or misgynist, or even have connotative or suggestive overtones, and I will do my best to shout down anyone who suggests otherwise."

      Would it fucking kill people to think hard and respond with a well reasoned argument if they disagree before starting the comment dogpile?

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    7. For real. I am not perfect and am always learning. I want people to make me think. I partly post this stuff to raise awareness but also to hear things and learn from others. It's kinda hard to do that when no one is willing to discuss it and they just "dogpile" with insults, some of them really homophobic and racist. What really sucks is when I get to talk to a musician I really like and they just say all kinds of fucked up shit the same as their fans. Must learn to separate art from artist I suppose...

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    8. Well, in defense of some of the artists, it's very hard for folks to make the distinction between "This thing you made could be construed as racist" and "You are a racist". I can get why someone would feel defensive. But the integrity-defense league mentality just sucks. I love plenty of artists whose views I'm not 100% on board with, the idea that someone whose art you love is above criticism is infantile.

      This goes without saying but still: don't get bullied out of speaking your piece. Like I said, whether I agree with you or not on a specific point, I appreciate your viewpoint, and we need more people speaking out on these issues.

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    9. Thanks and thanks for being supportive amongst the shit. It helps more than you know. I do understand how accusations about a video can be taken personally. I keep changing things in the AP entry. But my convo with Graves on youtube did not go well so, meh, I can only do what I can. I think he and I will both be thinking more about the use of skin color in art.

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    10. i dont think the race of the 'man' does matter at all.

      they'd freak and call racism if it's a 'brown' guy, a white guy, a black guy or a green guy, i dont think it matters.

      the whole thing's called bigotry.

      what would've made it better -a man torturing a man?white man/white man, white man brown man? a girl a girl? a girl a guy? a black asian indian torturing an arabic white russian?-would that neutralize it for you?

      i dont live in the states for longer than 6months yet but what i found out -if people want to insult someone and dont want to be talked back on, they usually use the racist and/or sexist card and feel all gooey good human about themselves. and if that's not enough, they throw in a reverse-psychology argument.

      there are way too many critics interpreting stuff into music, books, films and even food etc that just isnt there -in school you'd still get an F even if you write up pages and pages of empty arguments in your interpretation.

      and surprisingly the americas are way more nitpicking of wording and pictures than ALL the rest of the world -i'd think about that before critizising something that you cant even understand cause it's so off the way of the american thinking and 'culture' in which they even have to write CAUTION:HOT on a freaking coffee cup and 'dont put living animals and babies in your microwave' because otherwise a moneyhungry idiot would sue the company for their own stupidity and get an extra for their selfinflicted mental pains...

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    11. I've lived here my whole life. Racism is real. Especially towards people in the middle east. Stick around, if you don't see it yet, you will. Yes it would have been different if the demographics were different. But these demographics were chosen for a reason. See the singer's comments in response to adversary's public critiques of nachtmahr. Dude's a fascist patriarch.

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  9. Thanks to people who are adding to the conversation. And staying relatively calm. To everyone else who doesn't care, and who insist this is all so stupid it doesn't "merit response" and so on, why are you still here again? AND writing entire blog posts about me? Must have gotten under your skin a little. That's good at least. You're thinking enough to get angry and talk about it. Keep it up.

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    1. Splinters get under my skin, though I sincerely doubt they have any real value.

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    2. That was creative. Did you make that up yourself? Maybe you can help nachtmahr make more creative videos.

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  10. pretty funny stuff really, its just someone looking at things with no ability to discern nuances, a primitive black and white thinking, and projecting victim mentality on everything. apparently, if a white man does anything its because of cultural forces, sub-conscious racism and sexism, fuck, i thought that kind of modernist thinking went out in the 60s,,,,, its these types that see a plot behind every idea,,,,, its always ironic these types, they are the most racist, and sexist,--- they hate white men, they hate western culture, and all this soo called intellectualizing is just a way to justify it,,,,, dumb fuck, there are some things done just for fun, just for a look, its not allllllllllllll cultural brainwashing and white supremacy,--- white privilege is a bankrupt idea, its void of meaning,,,, its a condescending way that critics can look at something and tell the people who create, that they know more then they do,,,,,, its narcissistic,,,, keep acting like you know more then the creators of the art,,,,,, at least bands like this are giving people of color and women work, that's helping them more then you ever have,,,,,

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    1. Oh yeah I am sorry, genocide and sexual assault are fun! I am sure all sexual assault survivors loved watching the scene in this video. Coool. I didn't get it at first, thank you for explaining that to me.

      The point is that when you glorify misogyny "for fun" or not, you are still glorifying misogyny and promoting a culture of misogyny. Having fun doing it does not absolve one of criticism or responsibility. The sexism here is not subconscious. It's quite intentional. And if it was not intentional, well, someone wasn't thinking very hard when they made it.

      Can you explain to me more about how "white privilege" is a "bankrupt idea"? It's not an idea. It's just something that is. It's not made up on the spot to annoy you. It exists.

      "at least bands like this are giving people of color and women work, that's helping them more then you ever have" I am not really sure what to say to this other than the fact that when you have to be fake sexually assaulted and beat up on screen or to enforce a racial stereoytype to get work, that says a lot about the culture we live in, no?

      Why is the word "anarchy" in your name? Just curious. I love real anarchy, but see it thrown around a lot by people who say some pretty nasty stuff about anarchist principles.

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    2. who is performing genocide? who is assaulting anyone? taking these videos seriously is like writing an article about how tom and jerry is animal abuse and tom is an oppressor and trying to kill jerry, what a joke,,,,, sure i can explain it, some people do things even despite lunatics and crybabys,

      dionysian anarchy, read h.l. menkin's book on Nietzsche, he explains it well, its a meritocracy, no government control, and let the cream rise to the top, its social Darwinism, might is right,,, and kinda explains why i am ok with racism, sexism, and all that good stuff,,,,, i wish there was white privilege, i am white, so it would benefit me, and i am for that,,,,, jews and asian score higher on tests then do white, how come white oppression isnt keeping them down? how come black people here act and score the same as blacks in africa? cause its genetics not racism that is keeping certain people down, and rightly so,,, women act like children, they are emotional, and aren't as smart as men, its a fact, and if they get exploited, they deserve it, besides, there are individuals, groups don't exist, stupid people deserve oppression, if you are a strong happy individual, you wont be exploited, you wont be controlled, ,,, in closing everyone gets what they deserve, exploitation is natural, overpowering is natural, and right and wrong don't affect genetics,,,

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    3. The real offensive thing about these videos is the bad acting, not to mention the F rating I give for the music save for Skinny Puppy. So why take some amateur seriously? Why give them the benefit of fulfilling their wish of outraging someone? Plus the girls in that video are participating- so are they misogynistic (lame but i wouldn't give any of them something as pride-worthy as a title of making someone feel an emotion besides boredom, pity, or shame in wasting our time? Plus, it's amateurish to overuse words- they really lack power by being diluted. So what if some shitty band is portraying something that may be negative- ignoring them is their worst fear. Most of us wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't worked as their no pay PR agent.


      Dionysian anarchy mentioned- Aesthetic Perfect as blackface? Is the color black on the face automatically racist? Gee, that sure limits the freedom of fantasy and sci fi filmmakers. Seems like someone's going out of their way to look for negative things. The black and white seems to be a ying/yang thing- obviously he's not racist so I really don't get the point. Why seek out negative things? Seek positivity and forget promoting stuff you're against (whether illogical or logical).

      Do something positive- educate, lift someone up, help a friend or someone in need, have fun, whatever- why waste your time with this? It seems like there is some kind of thrill being had in this accumulation of crap videos and victimization of the self.

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    4. Social darwinism and anarchy should never be used in the same sentence ever again. Social darwinism is about competition. It's like the oxymoron of "anarcho"capitalism. Anarchism is about anti-hierarchy and no rulers, not competition and fighting to become one.

      Your whole rant on genetic essentialism with no analysis of culture or social influence is actually really scary. I hope you will rethink your use of the term anarchy in the future if you're going to talk like a fascist eugenecist.

      For someone claiming women aren't as smart as men, you sure are saying some damned ignorant stuff to a woman right now. I can see why you like this band.

      "if you are a strong happy individual, you wont be exploited, you wont be controlled" says the white straight guy...

      I read a lot of Nietzsche when I was a teenager. Even then I was mature enough to take his writings as metaphor not literal.

      And, as you should probably know, just because something is "natural" it doesn't make it right. Many natural things are quite fucked up and I am sure you would not like them to happen to you.

      I'm not sure why I am still talking to you other than the fact that your post doesn't sound like Nietzsche as much as it sounds like the rantings of a eugenecist lacking any history of eugenics and the damage.

      And remember when you said there were no groups and then listed groups? Cuz I do.

      Anyways, please never call yourself an anarchist again. That shit might fly with your buddies but most anarchist folks wouldn't stand your proto-fascist rantings for a second.

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    5. My last post was to dyonisian.

      Jacob, ignoring things doesn't actually make them go away like some people think. It allows them to grow without a challenge. I prefer to confront things head on.

      I also have done more than accumulate crap videos on this blog. there is quite the balance of decent ones and shit ones. But people like to focus on where they can create the most drama, no? I have received few comments on other posts here or on the posts which include decent videos.

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    6. anarchy is a concept bigger then political anarchy which is a lame joke, anarchy means lack of control by outside political forces, i am against, but i am no left winger, get your facts straight, there are capitalist anarchist, and even conservative anarchist, its not communism or left wing, i am none of those,,,,,,,,
      metaphor? typical, you never understood what he said to begin with,--- he was an elitist, a social Darwinist, and generally a guy who held contempt for the average man, the will to power is exploitation, its in the definition he gives of it,,,, you took intro to philosophy, i can see it, try some actual research, i know its very hard, but open a dictionary, look up anarchy, it has a meaning. its not a term only for a certain political ideology, ,,,,, i am for eugenics, but i am not a fan of this band, they aren't very original, its just bad dance music to me, i like real feeling not trying to shock idiots,

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    7. Capitalism at it's very core means competing for the top, for rule. You again contradict yourself saying anarchy is not political but it is about being free from the political. Anarchy is not left wing. It is progressive, without authority. Authoritarian left and authoritarian right both go against the tenets of anarchy, however diverse. Those who claim to be both capitalist and anarchist or eugenecist and anarchist are oxymorons. Anarchy has many facets, but all of it comes down to subverting hierarchy, not creating it.

      Anarchy comes from "an-archos" meaning "without rulers". Rulers include protofascist sexist eugenecists who think test scores (what tests, anyways?) imply lack of oppression and who thinks it's a "fact" that women act like children and aren't as smart as men. Who says that, science?

      Nietzsche had contempt for a lot of people. He also died of mental illness and dementia or possibly syphillis. No one knows for sure. As a person who knows mental health differences personally, and knows how eugenics models have been used to erase people like myself from the planet, Nietzsche's own theories kinda backfired on him didn't they? I do enjoy the fact that he collapsed after protecting a horse from being whipped though. It warmed my heart.

      Because I worked in cognitive neuroscience and psychology research for 5 years not including my own research I did in school and I have never read anything that said "women are not as smart as men" or "women act like children". I am trying to assume you aren't a troll and that you want an actual conversation here, but I have read more than one book (on Nietzsche, not even by him, jeez) and could even flip it on you that a lot of research shows women are "smarter" than men in many fields. But, I think science falls short with blanket statements like you and it are making and also fails to take into consideration societal and cultural factors which teach people certain behaviors from day one.

      You are for eugenics? Why? What makes you think you would fit into then equation of the "fit" populations not forcefully sterilized? Eugenics is the very idea that Americans started that Hitler thought sounded like a great plan and implemented in WWII. It has been used as an excuse to sterilize women against their will, has been used to imprison and kill people, has been used to genetically engineer food and animals, and so on. What part of eugenics are you "for"? In most eugencis models, pretty much all of us would be sterilized as eugenics strives for a model of perfection based on oppressive hierarchy. Partly why Hitler and his droogs liked it so much.


      If you're into evolution, may I recommend Kropotkin's "Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution"?

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    9. I would consider myself quite strong. Weak people are those who make up blatant lies about groups they are not part of in order to make themselves feel stronger than they are. You have to pretend women as a gender as weaker and stupider than you because it makes you feel smart. But, right now, you are losing a debate to a woman and you will many times in your future. Wouldn't it be easier to have a conversation instead of starting with the premise that I am stupid? I guarantee you I am not. I am quite confident in my mental capacities and knowledge.

      I did not marginalize your opinion. Your opinions have been present throughout many historical times as dominant, including today. Slavery, the holocaust, the selling of women, rape culture, and so on. What you are saying is nothing new.

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  11. Seriously, you, sir, are paranoid.

    Besides of that, your interpretations are just that - interpretations. Don't sell them as FACTS. In some points, you should probably even get your facts straight.

    You claim, that in the beginning of the video, the violence applied against the woman is glorified by the music. How so? She obviously is one of the "Nachtmahr Girls", so if there's anything glorified at all, it's most probably rather her will to still say "NO!", even under torture. Later in the video, this clichee is broken by her getting killed by her own people - you could also translate this to "don't trust in a totalitarian regime, it will get you killed, no matter what".
    Your so-called "Nazi Uniforms" are soviet by the way.

    As a sidenote on your Aesthetic-Perfection-Post: the poster you used there to "prove" your "blackfacing-theory" is in fact anti-german and does not have ANYTHING to do with what you implied on it. It shows an ape, that wears a moustache and a picket-helmet (which were seen as steretypic for a german WW I-Officer) and on the bat is the german word "Kultur" (culture).

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    1. You make a good point with the music. Perhaps that was a little of a stretch. I assumed that people watching the video would be watching it mostly because they liked the band and the music, and with the band playing the nazi-esque figures, I was thinking the music added to the glorification of violence. But I will rethink this.

      The German poster uses a large black ape-like man cluthing a white woman for a reason- to compare Germans to the already "threatening" presence of the black man. Intersectionality is present in all things and while how, with a shallow analysis of it, you could say that the poster only affects apes and Germans, you again, have to look at the history of the imagery of evil black figure, pure white kidnapped woman, to understand. If you want, I can dig through some books and readings and post them. Would that be helpful or a waste of my time?

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    2. Another thought with music glorification of violence. "Can you feel the beat" with Mr cool nazi man singing into your face while a woman is being beaten kinda seems like they're making it look cool. It's not like some skinny puppy song where they juztapose the images of violence towards a woman with words suggesting the violence is fucked up. It's just a hey look how cool we are and look how cool it is to hurt ladies. Given their recent poll in which "more naked girls" was one of the choices of what fans could as for more of, further shows their objectification of women and how they view them.

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  12. Oh, one more thing: where's the sexual violation? From what I see, she falls unconscious and dreams of having sex with/being caressed by the other "Nachtmahr Girls"...

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  13. Thank you for posting this and articulating what exactly is wrong with the video so well.

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    1. It's really rather sad how Nachtmahr ended up. I admit, I liked them at first when their first couple of albums came out.
      After they took this new direction toward nazi-symbolism and woman-hating/brutalizing, they lost me as a fan. Not only that, but the music has gotten gradually worse in a lot of ways and it isn't helped by the fact that he's doing bullshit like this video.
      And what I really don't understand is that they didn't need to go down that road (but hell, a lot of bands doing it started like this - and they didn't need to go down that path either - which also is really sad). They were awesome before this, and worse afterward - and it's really fuckin' sad.
      I started to get into this scene at around age 12. After seeing how a lot of people in it are just like the ones outside it (I got a lot of shit about how I was to young, etcetera etcetera - oh, the horror stories I could tell!), I left it mostly behind. At age 20, I'm just now gradually getting back into it - because after 9 years, I'm just now seeing how not everyone is like that.
      Before coming to this site, I tuned a lot of the woman-hating stuff and etc. out. Being a survivor, I kinda did the same thing as a coping mechanism. I'm sure I tuned it out for the same reason, because this shit is despicable and disgusting and yes, very triggering.
      These guys don't need to brutalize a woman to be a badass. There are other ways to do it that doesn't make you seem like a woman-hating asshat - which to me, isn't cool or badass anyway.
      I seriously, seriously hope that Nachtmahr pulls their head out of their ass. I also hope that other bands doing similar things do the same, because for Gods sake, they don't need to be doing it - they're cool without it.
      If the music is good, who needs it? It's just to bad that they don't see it that way.

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    2. Also, as for what you said: "This starts the video off reinforcing the racist (systemic, strategic) stereotype that brown people, specifically those from the Middle East, are torturers and misogynists with no regard for the lives of women. How soon we forget guantanamo bay and how white dominated Western militaries have poured loads of money, time, tactics and so on into their prisons and torture facilities. Into the coverups when these facilities are exposed. Into the massive racial profiling of brown people and labeling all kinds of people who dissent from the government terrorists."
      I agree with you there. Why? Because of bullshit things like this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/25/mayor-bloomberg-defends-nypd-intelligence-gathering-on-muslim-communities-across-northeast_n_1301042.html , and how nobody is ashamed to admit it about half the time.
      It's fucked up and it's bullshit. Just because some Muslims went extremist against Americans and etcetera, doesn't make them all that way.
      If a white person were to be "monitored for signs of terrorism", shit would hit the fan. But make it somebody Muslim/Middle Eastern - oh, that's just fine. Not.
      It's called double-standards and it's called racism, no matter what name you put on it. Call it terrorism, call it communism, call it what you may - it's all the same when you boil it down. It's discrimination against something or someone, and it disgusts me.
      But nobody seems to want to hear that, let alone admit it. And I think people really need to start listening.

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  14. Hi, I just wanted to say how glad I am I found this article. I am so sick of hearing music I like, looking up the artist on the net and finding out they are, for the bazillionth time, misogynistic racist idiots. It depresses me. Don't listen to all the "it's art!" people - there are plenty of us out here who agree with you.
    I also recently started a blog about alternative culture as a whole from a feminist point of view, have a read if you like:
    http://notdifferentenough.blogspot.co.uk/
    Keep up the blog, nice work!

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    1. Your blog looks awesome! I can't wait to read through it more when I have more time. Thanks!

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